A virtual reality in a virtual fishbowl

Our Federal powers that be keep talking about the things we have to give up in the name of, take your pick

a. security,

b. economic development

c. integrity of elections

d. environment e. healthcare

d. all of the above.

Maybe it’s about time for them to give up a few things. In the interests of a., b., c and d.

The first thing that happens after being elected is that our Senators and Representatives get Potomac fever.

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The Alabama Deer Hunters Advisory Board meets

The Alabama Conservation Advisory Board (CAB) will hold its first scheduled meeting of 2016 on Saturday, February 20, in Montgomery, Ala. The meeting will take place at the Alabama State Capitol Auditorium, 600 Dexter Ave., Montgomery, Ala., 36104. Visitors should use the entrance behind the Capitol on North Union Street.


It used to be at the beginning of February. Then they extended the deer season, so they moved it to late February so that the deer hunters could attend.  Small game hunters won’t because we can finally get into the woods and don’t want to give up one of best Saturdays

I’m a small game hunter

I’m a small game hunter, specifically rabbits.

I made a decision not to attend the first meeting in Montgomery on 1 March 2014, nor any others. There was really no reason to. Everybody knows that the CAB (Alabama Conservation Advisory Board) will extend deer season into February for the southern half of Alabama and eventually to the entire state.

While I was still planning on attending, I thought long and hard about what I would say opposing the extension of deer season into February.
Then I realized that there nothing I could say that would make the slightest difference.
It would end most small game hunting in Alabama? You already know this and it will make no difference whatsoever to you.
You don’t know the full impact on the deer herd? The only thing I have seen is a study to see where and when it would benefit tree sitters the most to move the season into February.
The preliminary study you provided raised all manner of possible problems including the detrimental impact on large bucks. These are problems that I have yet to have seen addressed beyond the desires of the deer hunters.

The letter presented to the Alabama Conservation Advisory Board meeting 12 March 2011, “Potential consequences of extending deer season into February” by Stephen S. Ditchkoff, School of Forestry and Wildlife Sciences, Auburn University is here The letter says that an extension of deer season into February will have a negative impact on the deer herd in terms of quality. That alone should have ended the debate

“Impact on small game hunters” This is self obvious in that small game hunting would pretty much end in the state of Alabama. Most land is private and the small game hunters can’t compete with the high prices that deer hunters are willing to pay.

Some say that the reason is that what the deer hunters want, they get from the CAB and Goat Hill.
And that is partially true.

Some on this board have ties to high wire operations, businesses connected to deer hunting and hunting plantations.

In a effort to be fair to the dog hunters, the proposal is to give back the days lost at the end of January. I used to hunt rabbits on some of these dog hunter’s property. That gave me roughly 45 days to hunt rabbits each year. By giving back to the dog hunters, you eliminate those extra days.

Even the days that OutDoors Alabama is touting as closed in December to make up for the days extended into February, is a lie. As soon as it was announced, the decision was made to allow deer hunting with compound bows and inline black powder. None exactly primitive weapons. And not exactly closed.

Another example is baiting. Each year deer hunters put out tons of corn. It’s sold in most stores in handy camouflaged bags. I’ve seen the Florida tags at a local feed and seed filling 55 gallon drums on trailers with their ATVs. But the only response from this board is not to crack down, but to legalize baiting. Some hunters I know tell me that they are glad that baiting with certain restrictions will be legalized, but they’ll continue to hunt over corn.

Deer hunting is not about fair chase anymore. Being able to penetrate those keen eyes, nose, hearing and instinct. Instead it is about giving the hunter every advantage over their quarry; cameras, low light scopes, scent blockers, bait, technological advance weapons (cross bows, compound bows, inline black powder, shooting houses over green fields, ect). And coming soon “drones”. It is about killing horns the easiest way possible, like shooting a cow in a feed lot. But I don’t really believe that this is about giving the deer hunters what they want. Although it is, partially.

Some would say that it is a matter of politics.
And I agree somewhat with that. I know that there are politicians on Goat Hill that would use their position and power to influence matters that should be beyond political influence for their own personal benefit. There is no doubt in my mind that some would attempt to influence where the line is drawn so that their or their families lease was included. My disdain for politicians knows no limits. But I don’t really believe that this is about giving politicians what they want. Although it is, partially.

There is a old saying “follow the money”. And I suspect that drives the move into February more than any other since it is the deer hunters money that ultimately has the most influence.
When I’m forced out by the CAB and the deer hunters, My vet loses roughly a $1000 a year. The local gas stations lose the multi tanks of gas I burn each year hunting different areas in Alabama. The hunting supplies I consume each year, chaps, briar britches, boots, shirts, vests, ammunition, dog food, dog collars, pine shavings, hats, snacks, on and on will be lost to the state of Alabama and its merchants. If I decide to hunt in nearby Georgia, I’ll make sure I buy from the area where I am appreciated as a small game hunter.

I read a quote by N. Gunter Guy Jr., Alabama’s Commissioner of the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (DCNR)
“The thing is our deer season ends after everybody else’s, and we should take advantage of that to bring in money from out of state. I think we do some of that already, but we really need to let these deer hunters know that when their season ends, ours is open the whole month of January. And we have nice, liberal limits because we have a lot of deer.”

Our Alabama hunters need to think about what Commissioner Guy said, though most of them can’t look past the thought that they can hunt in February and eventually get rid of the “sort of” shut down in December.
The last thing “we” (all Alabama hunters) need is a marketing tool for the state to bring in even more hunters from out of state to increase the revenue for the state and the landowners.
Remember that wildlife is the property of Alabamians, not the landowner, not the lease holder and not the State. The State is merely the custodian for the people
Ultimately, hunting will only be for the privileged and the connected. The move of deer hunting into February will speed up the process. Governor Governor Robert Bentley, his political appointees and this Board will share a large portion of the blame.

It’s pretty much a done deal

Deer season will be extended in Alabama for most of the area below Hwy 80 until 11 February.
And then they will gradually extend it throughout the state, eventually ending the 11 day shut down.
When they write the history of hunting in Alabama, let it be known that the following names dealt the final blows to small game hunting in Alabama, Governor Robert J. Bentley, his political appointee, N. Gunter Guy, Jr., Commissioner, Department of Conservation and Natural Resources, Chairman of the Alabama Conservation Advisory Board Dan Moultrie of Moultrie deer Feeders.
Oh, they will tout the long small game season and the generous bag limits, but they mean nothing without opportunity.
They’ll talk about how they didn’t give the deer hunters more days, but when they did take away the corresponding days, they still allowed blackpowder and compound bows. I wonder if that was at the behest of the CAB members who have or their family has ties to deer shooting plantations?

Me? I’m moving my vet to Columbus, Georgia. I’ll buy all my gear either online or in Georgia. I see no reason to support the people who are driving the small game hunters out.
And the odds are The Rabbit Journal and the East Alabama Rabbit Hunters & Souse Eaters Social Club are not long for this internet world

Deer season is over (almost)

Long live rabbit season
At least as long as the Alabama CAB lets us

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Some advice for you tree sitters
Call a local rabbit hunter and set up a hunt on your property. You can’t find a better way to scout. And you might find out why you didn’t get that big buck this year. What you see will probably surprise you as you walk places on your property that you never have before.
When I was still deer hunting, I hunted one big buck for a couple of years without success. One day we were rabbit hunting near the stand. As I walked down the trail in the thick briars, big rubs were on most of the young trees. I looked straight ahead and was staring eye level at the trees that I sat in. He was seeing me a long time before I would have seen him.
Another time we were invited on to some property and our host was moaning about the lack of big bucks and big sign on it. As we worked a near impenetrable thicket, we came across sign. You should have seen our hosts jaw drop when we showed him.

Most deer hunters have vision of the deer fleeing for it’s life, eyes rolled back in fear with the dogs snapping at its rear with the deer never to return. If that worked, my pea patch would be safe instead of being ravaged on a annual basis. And most rabbit hunters will get rid of a dog he can’t break from running trash. Trash being defined as anything besides a rabbit.
NO, it won’t run the deer off. At least more than a few hours.
Middle Boy has often killed deer on property that we run repeatedly. Last Saturday and Sunday he killed nice bucks at Plunker’s place. And we had rabbit hunted that Saturday.


We have one club that invites us occasionally when the deer go nocturnal. They let us run the thick briars and thickets while they set in nearby areas waiting for the deer to ease out of our way.
Another club let us hunt in the middle of the week and sometimes mid days on Saturdays’. We passed on tips about what we saw and where.

It’s best to develop a friendship early though. Once February starts, we generally have all the land we want. There are only four Saturday’s in the month and, some like me, won’t hunt on Sundays. If you want to hunt during the week, in Russell, Lee, Macon or Chambers county, email me and I’ll see if I can work you in. Don’t expect that you will tell the dogman, just him and his dogs are welcome. In most cases that won’t fly. I like 8 or less hunters with four rabbit hunters and four host. Some are willing to hunt with more.

So, call a rabbit hunter. What are the two worst things that could happen?

One is you might find that you enjoy it though it is a lot more physical than what most tree sitters are used to.
Two is that if you bring a kid, they sometimes find it down right addictive. I’ve had a couple of fathers say that I have ruined their children on deer hunting. They would ask the kids if they wanted to deer hunt on Saturday and the kid would reply”Let me see if Mr. Louie is going to run rabbits”

CAB Meeting

I want to encourage all small game hunters to attend the first Alabama Conservation Advisory Board meeting on 1 March 2014.

This is the first time in my memory that the first meeting of the year in Montgomery, Alabama, a central location, is to be held when the small game hunters aren’t hunting on our precious few Saturdays.
The deer hunters will be out in force wanting the season extended into February arguing they can’t kill a big buck unless they can shoot it over bait or during the rut that varies according to the part of the state.

Maybe not in my lifetime, but surely among some of the younger hunters, the rut will continue shifting until it happens in March

We stand together and offer a show of numbers or or there will only be deer and turkey hunting in Alabama

The end of Rabbit Hunting in Alabama

may be near
If you oppose the extension of deer season, I beg you to contact the members of the Alabama Conservation Advisory Board (CAB) and let them know.
We still stand a chance of stopping this but only if you act

CAB meeting

Alabama Department of Conservation
and Natural Resources

64 N. Union Street
Montgomery, Alabama 36130

(334) 242-3486

N. Gunter Guy, Jr.
Commissioner of Conservation

Don’t forget the Governor and Lt Governor

On the next page is the email that I sent
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